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East West Expression Map

Post by patha » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:59 pm

Hi

I want to ask if there exist an expression map for east west symphonic orchestra


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Re: East West Expression Map

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:09 pm

No, so far as I know there are no ready-made Dorico expression maps for EastWest Symphonic Orchestra.

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Re: East West Expression Map

Post by patha » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:24 pm

Ok

Thank's Daniel
I think I will do some.

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Expression Maps

Post by patha » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:46 pm

Hi


I'm working now on an Expression Map for East West Symphonic Orchestra.

I have finished my "first" for Violin.
But when I open a new or another document, I can not finf the created Expression Map.
What do I have to do ?


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Re: Expression Maps

Post by dko22 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:28 pm

you need to export it from the project in which you created it and then import it into the new project. I also learned the hard way....

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Playing Techniques

Post by patha » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:29 pm

Hi every one

Question about playinf technics

Is there a way to save playing tecnics in Dorico and not only in the document where they are created?

(exprotz / import)


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Re: Playing Techniques

Post by Lillie Harris » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:34 pm

Yes, in the Edit>Playing Techniques dialog, select the playing technique you want to use in other projects and click "Save as Default" (the star symbol)

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Re: Playing Techniques

Post by patha » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:50 pm

Thank's a lot

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Re: Expression Maps

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:23 pm

That's not strictly true: once you have defined it as part of a playback template, if you set that playback template to be your default one, then the expression map(s) and any VST instruments related to those expression maps will automatically be loaded into your new project.

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Playing Technics

Post by patha » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:18 pm

Hi


I'm on the way to creat an expression map for east west symphonic orchestra.

Question about the playing technics:

Pizzicato keyswitch is for Violin on a different Midi Note than for Cello or double bass.
How can I creat a "2nd pizzicato" wich do the right keyswich so that I have a pizz for Vioolin and a pizz for cello ?


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Re: Playing Technics

Post by fratveno » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:34 pm

You will need separate/individual expression maps for each instrument (unless they have identical layout)...
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Re: Playing Technics

Post by patha » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:41 pm

Ok I understand

but how can I assign the "2nd pizzicato" ?
There is only 1 pizz. in the expression map

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Re: Playing Technics

Post by patha » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:32 pm

I got it


Until I assign the instrument to the expression map. Only strange sounds.
What wrong here?
I can not use my East West sounds at all . . . .

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Re: Playing Technics

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:37 pm

You need to create a separate expression map. One expression map for your violin, and another for your cello.

Patrick, when you come back to ask further questions about creating your expression map, please feel free to reply to one of your existing threads rather than starting another thread with the same title. I've merged a couple of your recent threads into this one. Please continue to post in this one rather than creating a new thread for each simple question. It will be more helpful to other members of the community to see the wider context of what you're working on.

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Re: East West Expression Map

Post by patha » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:35 pm

Sorry Daniel
You are right

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Re: East West Expression Map

Post by patha » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:38 pm

For now I understand how to creat an new playing technique
I understand less to creat an expressoin map.

I got always the wrong sounds. No keyswitch and so on. (Wrong sounds or strange sounds)

Where can I get some easy explications about all that. I'm trying around now for a few days without any results

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Re: East West Expression Map

Post by patha » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:13 pm

Hi Again


I have created an Expression map like in a youtube video. But it don't work at all.
Maybe someone see what's happen


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Re: East West Expression Map

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:46 pm

I don't think your screenshot is sufficient for anybody to be able to help you. Can you provide a few more details about what exactly you've done? How have you got your sounds set up in EW Play? Which sounds are loaded into which channels? Have you set up corresponding entries in the expression map for each channel, with matching channel change numbers?

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Re: East West Expression Map

Post by patha » Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:44 pm

Hi every one

I got the solution.
I copy the Hallion Expression Maps and change the keyswitches. Slowly I understand. But slowly

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Re: East West Expression Map

Post by patha » Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:14 pm

Hi

I have created Expression maps for the East West Symphonic Orchestra (only Woodwinds for now)
Works fine.
But when I load the Instruments into a Score, Dorico Open for every single Instrument an VST Instrument

Example: 2 Flutes & To Oboes
VST Instruments

01- Play (for Flute 1)
03 - Play (for Flute 2) and so on
How can I change this to one VST Instrument at the begining in the Setup?


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Re: East West Expression Map

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:58 pm

You should instantiate one instance of Play, and load the sounds you need into each slot, then assign in the Endpoint Setup dialog the appropriate expression map to each channel, then save a playback template that uses this configuration. When you later user this playback configuration, it should load only a single instance of Play provided you don't have more instruments than are available in the instance you set up. You can consult the Dorico 3 Version History PDF for full details on how to set up a playback template.

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Re: East West Expression Map

Post by patha » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:48 am

Hi Daniel

Thank's. I like the playback templat and can handle it.
What I mean is.
I created 1 template with the string instruments. (2 Violins, Viola, Cello & db)
Now when I setup a score ex. 3 Cellos, and use this template I made for strings. Dorico load up to 3 VST Play.
When I load the same in Hellion SE, Dorico load only 1 VST instance.

Sorry but my english is not the best . .

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Re: East West Expression Map

Post by Daniel at Steinberg » Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:38 pm

Don't worry, I understand perfectly. If you have three cellos but only one cello in your instance of Play, then Dorico will have to load three instances of Play, because it is not able to automatically load sounds in Play at all. If you know you'll be needing three cello lines, I suggest you load them into an instance of Play yourself, and then save that as a playback template.

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Re: East West Expression Map

Post by Komponi » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:21 am

Hi!

Excuse me ... my English is very bad.
Question: Is it even possible to use my East West Hollywood sounds in Dorico so that all articulations and dynamic levels are played as noted?

Is Inconica edited, so that it can be used together with Dorico … without any settings?

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Re: East West Expression Map

Post by MarcLarcher » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:27 am

Hi Michael !
No expression maps for Iconica yet, I'm afraid. I guess when it's done, we will all know !
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