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Dorico plays some parts way louder than the written dynamic. I can't figure out why.

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ThatViolaGuy wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:02 am
Dorico plays some parts way louder than the written dynamic. I can't figure out why.
Try resetting your playback template. Or select all notes and Reset Playback Overrides.
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This happens to me as well, and while resetting the playback template and playback overrides works temporarily, the problem always returns quickly.

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Unfortunately these kinds of anecdotal reports don't allow us to help. Please provide reproducible cases and we'll certainly take a good look at the problem.

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This problem occurs seemingly at random, and so it is very difficult to provide a reproducible case. However, I've attached here a Dorico file which somewhat consistently displays the issue during playback. I've reduced this file as much as possible, trying to zero in on the troublesome passages. I hope this is helpful!

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Lovely piece, Julian. However, none of the dynamics seem out of the way to me. Is there a particular spot where you find the dynamics are out of whack?

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Thanks very much. It's a small part of a larger piece.

The problem is random — that is, if I play back the same passage twice, it may occur once, but not the next time. On a playback just now, I had a random jump in volume halfway through measure 51 in the violin part — but when I play the passage again, the problem doesn't occur.

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You could try disabling the humanisation of dynamics on the Dynamics page of Playback Options, perhaps?

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I’ll give that a shot and report back — thanks.

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bar 50 the violin C# has a slight accent which seems entirely natural. Bar 51 has always been completely smooth -- I've played the last few bars a dozen times now and in the piece as a whole, like Daniel, I just can't reproduce what you're finding. Will be interesting indeed if turning humanisation off makes a difference.

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Mystery solved! I think...

I finally noticed that if I select any item during playback, the staff on which I made the selection suddenly jumps in volume. This was probably responsible for all the "random loud spots" I was noticing. Can anyone else reproduce this?

Regardless, now that I know what causes it, I can easily avoid it.

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That would make sense: Dorico will output a volume controller to ensure an appropriate volume level for the item you select, if it is set to audition the things you select. "Doctor, doctor, it hurts when I do this..." :)

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Is that still in effect even if the setting in question, "Play notes during note input and selection," is turned OFF, as I have it set?

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Dorico will always spontaneously try to play any note you select, even if it is currently playing back. Whether or not this is really useful I couldn't say!

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