Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by SoundAvenue » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:05 pm

Unfortunately with a mac a magic mouse is indispensable. For a professional to accidentally destroy a mix is a serious problem.

I'm seriously worried because this issue was notified by customers since Jan 2011! I'm a little disappointed about Steinberg's reaction times!

It would be the only reason to not cross-grade to Nuendo!

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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by Tj99 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:33 am

But leave it as it is for the inspector!
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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by auggybendoggy » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:13 pm

+1

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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by MW1 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:47 pm

Tj99 wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:33 am
But leave it as it is for the inspector!
Honestly, it's a no brainer - simply have a setting to choose whether mouse scrolling is enabled by default (for those who like the behaviour as it is now) or toggled on/off when combined with a modifier key (eg ALT).

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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by reztes » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:05 pm

I like scrolling to navigate, but I hate scrolling faders. However, I like scrolling Qs in EQ (but you have to click the point to scroll this).

So yes, scroll should serve one purpose: scrolling to navigate.

All the other scroll things should be triggered by a previous action (like clicking in the fader or in the EQ point).

This would be my solution.

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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by UaTem » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:51 pm

If this feature is not implemented for the next Cubase release, I would not buy it, I'm serious! :)
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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by Torgoyepyep » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:03 am

+1 for disable/use with modifier key

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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by gamelany » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:17 pm

+1
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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by jordikt » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:33 am

+1

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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by MW1 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:20 pm

This problem is particularly bad for Mac users with a Magic Mouse.

Any news from Steinberg on whether it will be addressed soon?

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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by In_Stereo » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:31 am

So weird that this hasn't been fixed in many, many years -- it seems to be a very simple request that so many people here want, for a very good reason. It's a very major issue. I would be very disappointed and tired out to not see it addressed finally in 10.5.
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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by beatpete » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:44 pm

Still not fixed in 10.5!
Please, this is such a PITA!
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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by Anando » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:00 pm

+1, a true workflow killer. There is always some "fear" in my mind when hovering over the mix console. Can change a mix without notice.
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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by gamelany » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:48 am

+1
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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by dylanw » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:16 am

-1 * total number of replies

this scroll functionality is good for people with RSI and those sensitive to excessive clicking and dragging for precise adjustments. With a modifier key could be an option if it doesn't replace zoom/scroll functions.

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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by Joe90 » Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:14 am

+1 on this, and I wouldn't even personally use this feature, I've just seen people asking for years, I can understand why the current behaviour would frustrate them immensely, and it's amazing it hasn't been implemented yet. I feel the same way about vertical zooming in the main project window with a mousewheel+modifier.

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Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:16 am
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this scroll functionality is good for people with RSI and those sensitive to excessive clicking and dragging for precise adjustments. With a modifier key could be an option if it doesn't replace zoom/scroll functions.

...I don't think anyone was seriously suggesting that Steinberg forcibly disable it for everyone! Simply a preferences option where you can disable it if you choose. The OP should have made that clearer though I guess.
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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by dylanw » Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:09 am

Joe90 wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:14 am
...I don't think anyone was seriously suggesting that Steinberg forcibly disable it for everyone! Simply a preferences option where you can disable it if you choose. The OP should have made that clearer though I guess.
Agreed, I'm sure that a preferences option is what most reasonable people are proposing here.

However sometimes 'the squeaky door gets the oil' at whatever cost. And I witnessed this functionality disabled in Logic within the mixer semi-recently (scroll adjust is now only possible in the inspector - an even worse problem in logic with the small mixer and send knobs ui)

So I felt it was worth adding ergonomics to the thread as one valid counter argument on the off chance the same might happen in Cubase.
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Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:14 am
I can understand why the current behavior would frustrate them immensely, and it's amazing it hasn't been implemented yet.
My guess that the reason it's not implemented is that it's a classic example where something seems simple but there is an explosion of concerns. Is this hypothetical preference handled globally for every slider or case by case? If case by case, each users expectations are different and the user experience suffers. (User x accidentally scrolls fader's in the inspector area and now wants an option there)

Do you actually have to override native user input methods that exist within the operating system? if so then I look forward to the resulting bugs. Baffling scenarios like the Logic example begin to make sense, because in pleasing everyone sometimes the health of software gets worse/more complex/buggy so developers decide to cut way or the other.

Also, I hope all Cubase users know they have the best mixer of all DAWs by a long, long, long way (my biased opinion of course!)

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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by TheDude » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:05 pm

dylanw wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:09 am
Also, I hope all Cubase users know they have the best mixer of all DAWs by a long, long, long way (my biased opinion of course!)

I totally agree, one of the best inconvenient mixers of all DAWs :D

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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by polynasia » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:11 pm

+1

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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by fchristenson » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:13 am

+1!

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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by fchristenson » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:13 am

+1!

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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by In_Stereo » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:47 am

I can't even say how much we need this feature.

It needs to happen.

Thank you for implementing very soon.
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Re: Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

Post by UaTem » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:19 pm

Hopeless, guys... I've been a fan of this feature and asked Steinberg to implement it for a long time. After upgrading version 10.5 I was very upset after I had realized that the feature was not implemented. Besides sound engineering, I'm a software developer so I tried to look into the problem and imagine how it could be solved. What I understood: it's not an easy thing to implement without affecting other things. The Apple mouse is a very unusual and complex controller, programmers should learn it in-detail to adapt it to Cubase -- and there's no guarantee that the next Apple Mouse version will be different. Now I understand you, Steinberg -- if it was as easy as adding colors to Console it would've been done already.

Decided to sell my Apple Mouse :(
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