Smart tool (or main+range tool hybrid)

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Re: Smart tool (or main+range tool hybrid)

Post by TheDude » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:11 am

Tomek wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:12 pm
We need SMART TOOL not New Colour Tool :D
Smart Tool would definitely be a great improvement, but I wouldn't mind a more elegant implementation of the Color Tool (current one feels clumsy to use).

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Re: Smart tool (or main+range tool hybrid)

Post by dmbaer » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:51 pm

+1!
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Re: Smart tool (or main+range tool hybrid)

Post by Tomek » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:07 am

Very old request...just a remainder, Steinberg. We are waiting...

workflow with clip gain and smart tool
this simple and intuitive solution for many pros is ground breaking for choosing DAW (where time is money) and also crossgrade-stoper to jump to another ship...

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we are changing gain

by keyboard shortcuts:
select range + CTR+Shift+UP/Down

by mouse & keyboard:
select range + CTRL+Shift+MouseWheel

by mouse (smart tool):
select range + up/down you mouse cursor over gain line

by gain icon in down left clip corner (small fader appears - elegant solution IMO)

In mean time in Cubase PRO/Nuendo: we have to separate clips and use gain control on each one or use pencil to draw gain line

I know that we have almost similar way to control volume line on automation track but:
- it's another track (waste space)
- does not cause a visual change in the height of the waveform

Clip aligment is great function your introduced in C10. This is the path you should go IMO.
So please listen more, do not overcomplicate simple things, simple solutions are usually the best.
And lastly, If you make new version please made it fully realy working not half-working. Because we pay you fully real money and not half-fake.

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Re: Smart tool (or main+range tool hybrid)

Post by TheDude » Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:54 pm

Tomek wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:07 am
Very old request...just a remainder, Steinberg. We are waiting...

workflow with clip gain and smart tool
this simple and intuitive solution for many pros is ground breaking for choosing DAW (where time is money) and also crossgrade-stoper to jump to another ship...

Image

we are changing gain

by keyboard shortcuts:
select range + CTR+Shift+UP/Down

by mouse & keyboard:
select range + CTRL+Shift+MouseWheel

by mouse (smart tool):
select range + up/down you mouse cursor over gain line

by gain icon in down left clip corner (small fader appears - elegant solution IMO)

In mean time in Cubase PRO/Nuendo: we have to separate clips and use gain control on each one or use pencil to draw gain line

I know that we have almost similar way to control volume line on automation track but:
- it's another track (waste space)
- does not cause a visual change in the height of the waveform

Clip aligment is great function your introduced in C10. This is the path you should go IMO.
So please listen more, do not overcomplicate simple things, simple solutions are usually the best.
And lastly, If you make new version please made it fully realy working not half-working. Because we pay you fully real money and not half-fake.

Yea - this thing exactly.. when I switched from Pro Tools to Cubase, I was quite disappointed/frustrated about, how clumsy the audio editing in Cubase is. Yes, there is a clip gain functionality (via Draw tool) in Cubase, but it is hard to use, because it is underdeveloped.

I would gladly upgrade to the next Cubase version, if it will include editing/mixing workflow improvements (like a smart tool, channel colors, improved sends, dual-mono plugin mode, etc.) and a proper HiDPI implementation, not new "groundbreaking" (and DAW-breaking) features.
Like most users, I just want convenience and speed in the basic editing/mixing functionalities, that are performed hundreds of times per day, not new shiny features, that don't work properly and/or make a very little difference to improving the music/audio making experience.

There is no way I am going back to Pro Tools' limited track count and its "fabulous" subscription scheme, but spending money on the last 2 Cubase upgrades left a bitter taste in my mouth (I did like the added inserts, DOP presets and latency monitor though) and made me look at some other DAW options.. and I have to admit, that Studio One looks very sexy these days :D

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Re: Smart tool (or main+range tool hybrid)

Post by Zoberflote » Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:33 pm

Please let us position the cursor ANYWHERE just by clicking...having to use Shift+Alt is awkward and a waste of time

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Re: Smart tool (or main+range tool hybrid)

Post by shlomee2 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:11 am

Yes we need smart tools all around, in all areas of Cubase to improve workflow and remain competitive with other DAWs.

Only reason I can think of them not doing it is that it's a higher effort than we imagine. I say 10.5 should be workflow focused on smart tools.

Create a smart tool Epic and start with the Key Editor. :)
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Re: Smart tool (or main+range tool hybrid)

Post by Thurisaz » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:46 am

+1 Here, too
The Smart Tool must be implemented soon! It speeds up the workflow a lot.
Cubase and Nuendo are the only ones of the big market players that still don't have the Smart Tool.

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Re: Smart tool (or main+range tool hybrid)

Post by samphony » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:23 pm

Zoberflote wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:33 pm
Please let us position the cursor ANYWHERE just by clicking...having to use Shift+Alt is awkward and a waste of time
you can either change it - I changed it to command + click -
or enable Edit mode under "Transport" > that way Cubase works similar to Pro Tools.

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Re: Smart tool (or main+range tool hybrid)

Post by Funkybot » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:51 pm

For a Smart Tool, I want more than just a select+range cursor, and not just a tool for audio, but one for MIDI, automation, etc. These are just suggestions (probably combined from other DAWs I use), but are meant to be examples of the kinds of thing a good smart tool would do and how it could be done.

Also, Cubase already does some of these. I'm just trying to be thorough.

So for audio [for example]:

1. Single clicking an event selects it (shift+click selects all events in a range, Ctrl+click non-continuous events)
2. Click and drag to move an event
3. Alt+click and drag turns the cursor into the range tool
4. Clicking and dragging the top-left/right corners adjusts crossfades
5. Clicking and dragging the left/right edges crops or expands the clip (Ctrl+clicking stretches)
6. Clicking and dragging upwards/downwards from the top-center adjusts clip [or selected range] gain
7. Alt+Double Clicking splits the event at the mouse cursor
8. Alt+Shift+Click and Drag to Glue events

For MIDI Clips:

1. Single clicking an event selects it (shift click selects all events in a range, Ctrl+click non-continuous events)
2. Click and drag to move a clip
3. Alt+click and drag turns the cursor into the range tool
4. Clicking and dragging the left/right edges crops or expands the clip (Ctrl+clicking stretches)
5. Alt+Double Clicking splits the event at the mouse cursor
6. Alt+Shift Click and Drag to Glue events

For PRV notes:

1. Single clicking a note selects it (shift click selects all notes in a range, Ctrl+click non-continuous notes)
2. Click and drag to move it
3. Alt+click and drag turns the cursor into the range tool
4. Clicking and dragging from left/right adjusts note start range
5. Clicking up/down from center adjusts note velocity
6. Alt+Double Clicking center of note splits note at mouse cursor
7. Alt+Shift Click and Drag to Glue notes

For automation/CC data:

1. Single click selects a node (shift click selects all nodes in a range, Ctrl+click non-continuous nodes)
2. Click and drag to move a node
3. Alt+click and drag turns the cursor into a range tool
4. Shift+click and drag for fine movement
5. If range is selected, enable transform tool where current shortcuts take effect

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Re: Smart tool (or main+range tool hybrid)

Post by romil » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:45 am

+1

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Re: Smart tool (or main+range tool hybrid)

Post by TheDude » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:40 am

plus one

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