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When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:32 am
by drorh4
Hey,

As far as I remember it supposed to be now.

thnx

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:07 am
by fenderchris
drorh4 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:32 am
Hey,

As far as I remember it supposed to be now.

thnx
Yes, it should be imminent, at least I hope so as I can no longer move beyond N7 due to the ever decreasing track availability caused by plugin/device limitations in Nuendo on Windows systems.

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:28 pm
by Big K
Hi Chris
Just out of curiosity:
when you say decreasing track availability caused by plugin/device limitations,
... how many tracks do you have to cope with in your projects to reach the limits?

Cheers, Big K?

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:19 pm
by Getalife2
When is the next Nuendo update?

Not in January!

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:15 pm
by ChrisPolus
They said end January / early February if I'm not mistaken. So any day now until mid February ;)

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:55 pm
by TimoWildenhain
Hello all,

It has been completed technically, but we need to run tests. We're a bit behind our
initial schedule, but we aim for mid of February now.

Thanks,
Timo

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:50 pm
by drorh4
Thanks for the input Timo.

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:23 am
by Getalife2
TimoWildenhain wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:55 pm
Hello all,

It has been completed technically, but we need to run tests. We're a bit behind our
initial schedule, but we aim for mid of February now.

Thanks,
Timo
Thanks for the info.

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:22 am
by heisenberg9
Thanks for the update Timo!

-Andrew

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:32 pm
by Toronja
Is there any information about what this update will include?

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:41 pm
by DaniDonadi
Hoping for same automation Cubase pro 9.5 has.

Thanks Timo!!
Dani

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:27 pm
by Keyplayer
TimoWildenhain wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:55 pm
Hello all,

It has been completed technically, but we need to run tests. We're a bit behind our
initial schedule, but we aim for mid of February now.

Thanks,
Timo
Did you guys get rid of that iron cross cursor?

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:56 pm
by fenderchris
Big K wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:28 pm
Hi Chris
Just out of curiosity:
when you say decreasing track availability caused by plugin/device limitations,
... how many tracks do you have to cope with in your projects to reach the limits?

Cheers, Big K?
Hi Big K,

I use a SmartAV Tango control surface which does require a lot of devices to be added in Nuendo, but a few updates back I was able to install all required devices and still add a fair number of inserts to a project, but now it is impossible load them all and the number of loadable plugins into Insert and Send slots has been much reduced. The project that I am currently working on has only 45 tracks in total (all types - audio midi sends etc.) and only 15 plugins, and already it struggles when I try to add another plugin. Sometimes the plugin will simply not load or sometimes I will just get a blank plugin window. To solve this I have to remove some SmartAv devices in Device Setup thereby reducing the number of audio tracks at my disposal. This gets worse with every Nuendo update - while nothing changes at my end (no changes to SmartAv).

There are others here who have reported similar issues and they are not all Tango users, so the problem does not solely relate to the Tango.

On Windows operating systems it is only possible to install a maximum of 256 DLL's or Plugins, however this limit is dramatically reduced by Steinberg DAW's and in my experience the number installable seems to be reduced with every update.

Here are some previous posts that relate to the issue:

viewtopic.php?f=275&t=121121&p=683105#p657425
viewtopic.php?f=275&t=121121&p=683105#p657425
viewtopic.php?f=275&t=127745&p=692347#p692347

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:44 pm
by 5am
You know when the likes of Izotope don't support Nuendo 8, the version is a dead duck!

5am

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:43 am
by Romantique Tp
5am wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:44 pm
You know when the likes of Izotope don't support Nuendo 8, the version is a dead duck!

5am
Released just a few days ago with Nuendo 8 support:
https://www.izotope.com/en/support/prod ... notes.html
https://www.izotope.com/en/support/prod ... notes.html
https://www.izotope.com/en/support/prod ... notes.html

Looks like this duck is alive and well.

Nuendo 8 was not listed as supported because it was new and it works differently from previous versions. Nothing else.

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:15 am
by stilus
Mid of February - 2018? :lol:

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:24 pm
by Luis Dongo
Hello,

unfortunately the version mentioned by Timo a couple of weeks ago didn't pass all QA tests and needs to be rebuilt, while also including some extra fixes. This means that we have to delay this release by approximately further four weeks, assuming that all QA tests are successful.

Thank you for your understanding.

All the best,

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:06 pm
by ChrisPolus
Gosh, that's frustrating. 4 extra weeks for another round. But thanks for letting us know.

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:48 pm
by drorh4
ChrisPolus wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:06 pm
Gosh, that's frustrating. 4 extra weeks for another round. But thanks for letting us know.
Indeed.
But lets not forget we have the privilege to know about realese times. i rather to have that than a not knowing and just get a notice in the website.
There is a good will of SB team and I accept that.

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:59 pm
by DTSR
Luis Dongo wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:24 pm
This means that we have to delay this release by approximately further four weeks, assuming that all QA tests are successful.
in other words, "it's still broken."

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:21 am
by heisenberg9
Thanks for the heads up Luis! Good to know.

-Andrew

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:00 am
by fenderchris
Luis Dongo wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:24 pm
Hello,

unfortunately the version mentioned by Timo a couple of weeks ago didn't pass all QA tests and needs to be rebuilt, while also including some extra fixes. This means that we have to delay this release by approximately further four weeks, assuming that all QA tests are successful.

Thank you for your understanding.

All the best,
That doesn't mean much - '..assuming that all QA tests are successful' is the get-out. It could therefore be much longer than another four weeks!

And if QA tests are so vital now, why were they not important when N8 was released in the first place?

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:27 am
by hendrix97
Would you guys rather have another "not finished and well tested" product?
All fixes mean new possible bugs... its not like setting the eq on a vocal track ;-)

Was the release of N8 too early? Yes... But I hope the Steinberg team has learned its lesson.

I appreciate the attempt to get it right this time.

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:52 am
by Fredo
Apparently everybody is right all of the time ....
When it's released on time it's: HOW CAN THEY RELEASE THAT WITH THIS AND THAT BUG REMAINING!!!!!
When they try to fix a few critical things and burn the deadline: BROKE A PROMISE!!!!

Look, when a version doesn't pass QA, then it means that something "critical" is causing instability or that at functionality is broken without workaround. I am sure that nobody wants such a version to be released.

And then the circle is round: More people, more programmers, work around the clock to combine both above.
All without an increase of price of the software of course ...

Sorry for being cynical.

Re: When is the next Nuendo update?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:03 am
by stilus
Fredo, you've right! BUT - we BOUGHT Nuendo version 8 update in JUNE 2017! 8 months ago! And software UPDATE which I bought (for almost half the price of Cubase Pro 9.5 btw!!!) stil doesn't work as it should! After 8 months!
Because of GUI issues is for us, MAC users almost unusable on large projects!

Man ... I wonder if anyone at Steinberg is testing the software before it is placed on the market. Sorry for being cynical but - after 9 months I expect a version without ANY bugs.

Increase price of the software that I cannot use?? Come on! I expect at least 2 YEARS I will not pay for any updates. I don't trust Steinberg anymore. Sorry.

The least Steinberg could do is - to offer a trial license version of a (now) full working Cubase 9.5 (I speak for MAC platform!) for the time we wait for "working" version of Nuendo.