More color options to make a lighter theme possible

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More color options to make a lighter theme possible

Post by djw » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:01 am

Some people prefer a lighter theme than Cubase 9 ships with, for example because it's easier to see outside, or just because it looks less "drab".

Suggested color options:
- Track color brightness
I'd like an option to make unhighlighted tracks a lighter color. (The part with the name and track controls.) In 9 it is the same as the background color, instead of tracks standing out with a lighter color like in 6/7.
- Tab contents background brightness
The MixConsole and inspector zones, scrollbars etc. all heavily use the same background color without lighter areas, which all looks pretty dark, especially compared to light editors.
- Background color outside of zones (currently pitch black)
It could be a darker shade of the Zone background color by default instead.
- An included light theme
I have a hard time making it look right myself, so I would love an official palette.

The brighter, and in my opinion cleaner look of Cubase 7: (click to enlarge)
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Re: A lighter theme like Cubase 6/7: more options to make it possible

Post by djw » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:50 am

Updated with a better screenshot.

I hope Cubase will get a new coat of paint and borrow from what was done right.

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Re: A lighter theme like Cubase 6/7: more options to make it possible

Post by JBF » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:07 am

+1
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Re: A lighter theme like Cubase 6/7: more options to make it possible

Post by Romantique Tp » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:20 am

+1 for customization, though personally I don't really miss the pre-Cubase 8 look at all.
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Re: A lighter theme like Cubase 6/7: more options to make it possible

Post by djw » Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:34 pm

I made my request more specific for what color options I would like to see.

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Re: A lighter theme like Cubase 6/7: more options to make it possible

Post by mitchiemasha » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:22 pm

Isn't already fully customisable? I always thought the switched to the darker look because new research has show that it's less strain on our eyes, so fatigue kicks in later. I could be wrong but they were doing us a favour, regardless to the look we prefer.
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Re: A lighter theme like Cubase 6/7: more options to make it possible

Post by djw » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:43 pm

Nope, not all elements are customizable.

In a bright environment, especially on a laptop, a lighter theme is preferred. Darker is not always better, especially in the Key Editor where contrast gets very low. (I uncheck "use project color" there). Darker is harder to see on reflective screens, like on a laptop outside.

I've noticed various users setting up Cubase to be brighter, but it always looks pretty bad. A built in light theme that is confirmed to look good would be wonderful for us. Personally, I would probably switch between them depending on my mood hehe.

Here's an example of a pretty bad looking attempt at a light theme for outside use:
https://youtu.be/Kugre6FIc-A?t=7m32s

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Re: A lighter theme like Cubase 6/7: more options to make it possible

Post by mitchiemasha » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:47 am

djw wrote:
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like on a laptop outside
That would be bad. We're always thinking from the perspective of our dim lit studios
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Re: A lighter theme like Cubase 6/7: more options to make it possible

Post by Stephen57 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:30 pm

+1000

Cubase can do some great colors. People have even expanded on the available choices. (I'm on a Windows system and don't know what the Mac side offers, largely the same I'm assuming).

What I've observed from watching youtube demos is that the best colors are those users develop for themselves. That's a great program feature and I'd never want to see it abandoned in favor of a few, locked-in, color set-ups. I like the flexibility as it is now. I'm developing my own preferences over time.

However, I would like a choice of some preset color pallets. 1. Light, 2. Medium, 3. Dark, perhaps, morning, afternoon, nighttime- -whatever. In pro-Nine we have some of this, but it's on the darker side of the spectrum. My usual Preference is "Use Project Colors." A few well-designed presets would be good -- tastefully crafted by a skilled art director.

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Re: A lighter theme like Cubase 6/7: more options to make it possible

Post by djw » Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:53 am

Stephen57 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:30 pm
However, I would like a choice of some preset color pallets. 1. Light, 2. Medium, 3. Dark, perhaps, morning, afternoon, nighttime- -whatever. In pro-Nine we have some of this, but it's on the darker side of the spectrum. My usual Preference is "Use Project Colors." A few well-designed presets would be good -- tastefully crafted by a skilled art director.
Yeah, this is what I want too. I'm not gonna go "Studio One does it!" because I don't even like their colors, but... you know.

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Re: A lighter theme like Cubase 6/7: more options to make it possible

Post by suntower » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:32 am

Said it before, say it again... about once a year I go back to SX1 and I gasp. It was -great-. Simple. Clean. Bright. No hidden gizmos. Consistent.

Like Danish Modern furniture.

What happens to Cubase... same thing happened in the VST days... with each version it becomes more Balkanized... INCONSISTENT. Cubase now is not only too dark, it's not -consistent-... and that is what makes it hard to use---not the colours per se.
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Re: A lighter theme like Cubase 6/7: more options to make it possible

Post by djw » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:52 am

I dislike that depending on which window you open, you can see when in time it was added because the controls look different. A window may have a light scroll bar when it's added earlier for example.

To tie it into this request: the light and dark theme should be effective for all windows and all controls.

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Re: More color options to make a lighter theme possible

Post by lordExtra » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:36 pm

+1 needs a massive overhaul. please get rid of the pointless eyecandy and bring up to standard.
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Re: More color options to make a lighter theme possible

Post by mbira » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:45 pm

+1 I would also really appreciate more track colors-or better yet-also give us a color-picker option for tracks so we can do subtile shifts of a similar color for when we have tons of tracks that are similar.
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Re: More color options to make a lighter theme possible

Post by Alek515 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:43 pm

djw wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:01 am
Some people prefer a lighter theme than Cubase 9 ships with, for example because it's easier to see outside, or just because it looks less "drab".

Suggested color options:
- Track color brightness
I'd like an option to make unhighlighted tracks a lighter color. (The part with the name and track controls.) In 9 it is the same as the background color, instead of tracks standing out with a lighter color like in 6/7.
- Tab contents background brightness
The MixConsole and inspector zones, scrollbars etc. all heavily use the same background color without lighter areas, which all looks pretty dark, especially compared to light editors.
- Background color outside of zones (currently pitch black)
It could be a darker shade of the Zone background color by default instead.
- An included light theme
I have a hard time making it look right myself, so I would love an official palette.

The brighter, and in my opinion cleaner look of Cubase 7: (click to enlarge)
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Wow, how did you make this color scheme?

is it possible to share here?
thanks!

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Re: More color options to make a lighter theme possible

Post by djw » Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:30 pm

I believe this used to be the default color scheme C7...

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Re: More color options to make a lighter theme possible

Post by fese » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:27 pm

+1000 on a overall light color scheme. I don't tend to work in the dark and my eyes are not good with dark grey fonts on black background color.
I also still miss C6 and it's consistent design. The new design since C7 is still a catastrophe and not worthy of the "pro" in the name.

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Re: More color options to make a lighter theme possible

Post by djw » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:30 pm

I also like how there was less padding and the "zone" corners are square.

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Re: More color options to make a lighter theme possible

Post by raino » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:02 pm

+1000
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Re: A lighter theme like Cubase 6/7: more options to make it possible

Post by raino » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:19 pm

mitchiemasha wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:22 pm
Isn't already fully customisable? I always thought the switched to the darker look because new research has show that it's less strain on our eyes, so fatigue kicks in later. I could be wrong but they were doing us a favour, regardless to the look we prefer.
While that seems to be the top explanation for why they introduced the restriction it falls apart if you think about it. Different people's eyes work differently, some see contrast better than others. Even if it does stave off fatigue that is not very important if a person has to give up basic visibility instead. That's not a favor in disguise. These restrictions are based on assumptions about the end user's vision that can be totally wrong.
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Re: More color options to make a lighter theme possible

Post by shanabit » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:50 pm

This whole color palette restriction is pure garbage IMO. Waste of coding time. I still can't make it look like I had it before!!!
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Re: More color options to make a lighter theme possible

Post by thenowhereman » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:44 pm

shanabit wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:50 pm
This whole color palette restriction is pure garbage IMO. Waste of coding time. I still can't make it look like I had it before!!!
Amen, I hate this DARK crap. Funny thing is my older versions were set up with a color scheme similar to this forum. Maybe they should change that since they are so concerned with our vision...What's next, are they going to control how loud we can listen to our monitors because it might damage our ears???
Please give us the choice as to what color scheme we want and how dark as it was before, this dark drab palate is depressing. The screen grab is the same song file pulled up simultaneously C8.5 Pro on the left and C9.5 Pro on the right...come on...I had no problem setting up the same color palette in C9 Pro but no cigar in 9.5 and that is the lightest version of the color palettes I could find. I thought it was a mistake when I first saw it
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Re: More color options to make a lighter theme possible

Post by raino » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:41 am

thenowhereman wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:44 pm
shanabit wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:50 pm
This whole color palette restriction is pure garbage IMO. Waste of coding time. I still can't make it look like I had it before!!!
Amen, I hate this DARK crap. Funny thing is my older versions were set up with a color scheme similar to this forum. Maybe they should change that since they are so concerned with our vision...What's next, are they going to control how loud we can listen to our monitors because it might damage our ears???
Please give us the choice as to what color scheme we want and how dark as it was before, this dark drab palate is depressing. The screen grab is the same song file pulled up simultaneously C8.5 Pro on the left and C9.5 Pro on the right...come on...I had no problem setting up the same color palette in C9 Pro but no cigar in 9.5 and that is the lightest version of the color palettes I could find. I thought it was a mistake when I first saw it
Have you tried adjusting the hue in Color Schemes/Custom Color (the only place you can change the hue :( )? You'll at least be able to get some of your blue back.
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Re: More color options to make a lighter theme possible

Post by thenowhereman » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:58 am

Tried everything. There is no way to lighten the darkness

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Re: More color options to make a lighter theme possible

Post by zipb » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:23 am

These dark colors don't work for my studio with lots of natural light. Please, get rid of the restrictions in the color/brightness range of the GUI...
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